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I don't really have an interest in setting out to establish my claims.... But as to your comment," That there are sub-bottoms who describe themselves in this way is not sufficient to establish the truth of the claim (might those comments you have heard from other guys not simply point to low self-esteem?" I can agree with that. as for the comment, " Also, being a Stanford alumnus and having a PhD do not make you smart," I agree with the thrust of that, but I don't understand the combative nature of your comments
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I am actually one of those subs. There is an official, kind and generous response to your question, and an other response that I hear in private. (I have been a clinical psychologist for a long time with lots of gay clients). There is a difference between guys who bottom, who are on the bottom at times or often (vers.) and those of us who have always been on the bottom and are submissive to men in bed and subordinate in most everyday events in every day life. While I happen to be smart (Stanford alumnus and a PhD) most of us are less intelligent than the average guy. One comment that I have often heard from sub-botttoms and from other guys is that we are "disposable'. That we are basically "walking cum holes". That is a quick answer . My sub clients have always felt relieved to be able to be open about this with me. I am very open to discussing this with you or anyone else. This, as you may know, is Indepence Day for your neighbor to the North
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